WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.220 --> 00:00:07.529 Jennifer Embree: Welcome everyone we're gonna get started in just a minute. 2 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:35.850 Jennifer Embree: Okay, so it is 530 so i'm going to go ahead and get started Hello everyone welcome. 3 00:00:36.300 --> 00:00:44.640 Jennifer Embree: we're so excited that you're able to join us for this panel today called simply sustainable resources and strategies for living a more sustainable life one step at a time. 4 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:54.420 Jennifer Embree: So, my name is Jennifer embry I am a subject librarian here at binghamton and I will be moderating this event, along with my colleague nita Gilman, who is the health sciences library here at the university. 5 00:00:55.230 --> 00:01:06.090 Jennifer Embree: tonight's event is one of many events that needed I, and I have been hosting through the libraries in partnership with a lot of local and binghamton organizations. 6 00:01:07.410 --> 00:01:14.190 Jennifer Embree: As a part of a grant that we received the American library association called resilient communities libraries responding to climate change. 7 00:01:15.030 --> 00:01:24.600 Jennifer Embree: So this is a pilot program and its purpose was to help libraries across the country support their communities by creating programming focused on issues related to climate change and sustainability. 8 00:01:25.470 --> 00:01:28.890 Jennifer Embree: So if you're interested in other events that we have coming up, we have. 9 00:01:29.190 --> 00:01:38.010 Jennifer Embree: A site that has an events page that lists a lot of different events that we have coming up in April there's a lot of really exciting one, so if you're interested we'll put the link in the chat and you can check it out. 10 00:01:39.720 --> 00:01:41.730 Jennifer Embree: and see if there's other events you'd like to attend. 11 00:01:42.300 --> 00:01:49.920 Jennifer Embree: we'd also like to share that the science slavery at being intent is starting a seed library that's going to be opening on Earth Day, hopefully. 12 00:01:50.220 --> 00:01:57.720 Jennifer Embree: April 22, so we are right now trying to collect seeds for this seed library, so if you have seeds that you'd like to donate please. 13 00:01:58.050 --> 00:02:10.770 Jennifer Embree: feel free to reach out to us nita will share a link for that as well, where you can sign up to donate if you're interested, but if you don't have anything to donate you just want to come when we open it and get some seeds to grow, the spring, please feel free to do that also. 14 00:02:11.910 --> 00:02:20.550 Jennifer Embree: Okay, so without further ado i'm ecstatic to start introducing our amazing panelists that we have with us today that are going to discuss strategies resources and ways. 15 00:02:20.850 --> 00:02:31.890 Jennifer Embree: that we can all make a difference, by making individual tweets that are more sustainable for our planet, so our first panelist is just is bertram, who is the library director for bring candy public library. 16 00:02:32.730 --> 00:02:40.950 Jennifer Embree: Our next panelist are Mona porter and Sophia Murphy from there representing the student chapter of zero hour here at binghamton university. 17 00:02:41.640 --> 00:02:47.250 Jennifer Embree: We our third panelist is Kate Miller corcoran, who is the development and communications manager. 18 00:02:47.730 --> 00:02:54.750 Jennifer Embree: At your fines and our fourth panelist is Adam flint the director of clean energy programs at the network for sustainable tomorrow. 19 00:02:55.320 --> 00:03:02.730 Jennifer Embree: So now i'm going to pass it up to nita who's going to start posting questions to our panelists and if anyone in the audience thinks the questions throughout the panel. 20 00:03:03.060 --> 00:03:08.880 Jennifer Embree: please feel free to put them in the chat and they'll be time at the end to answer audience questions, so thank you very much. 21 00:03:10.650 --> 00:03:20.460 Neyda Gilman: Thanks Jim our first question is really we want to hear from all the panelists we want to know a little bit about your background and what your interest in sustainability is so. 22 00:03:21.210 --> 00:03:29.370 Neyda Gilman: Why don't we just go in the order that Jen introduce people for this first question so just is tell us a little bit about your background and interest in sustainability. 23 00:03:30.210 --> 00:03:39.030 Josias Bartram: Sure Hello everyone um so I guess I there's several different facets to my interest a big one is. 24 00:03:40.230 --> 00:03:52.830 Josias Bartram: You know i'm passionately involved in libraries so i'm interested in what what libraries both both public and academic libraries can do to support communities to build. 25 00:03:54.150 --> 00:04:00.510 Josias Bartram: Healthy happy thriving communities, and it seems very clear that sustainability is a big part of that. 26 00:04:02.430 --> 00:04:21.270 Josias Bartram: And you know, both in terms of providing resources to support people's journeys to more sustainable lifestyle, which I think libraries do really well at, and I would encourage you all to to get involved with with libraries and to to help us to provide that service. 27 00:04:22.290 --> 00:04:32.940 Josias Bartram: But then also libraries are our institutions so there's the the separate task of making libraries themselves more sustainable in our operations which. 28 00:04:34.230 --> 00:04:40.560 Josias Bartram: You know I think is as is usually the case with institutions that pieces is a bit harder but it's something that. 29 00:04:42.270 --> 00:04:49.590 Josias Bartram: That we're working on and that the La is supporting like through these grants in terms of my my personal involvement on. 30 00:04:50.460 --> 00:05:08.220 Josias Bartram: I grew up in Sudan county New York on it, and my parents were very involved in the back to the land movement of the 1970s and 1980s, so I grew up on a Community owns organic farm, so I think sustainability was. 31 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:22.860 Josias Bartram: part of my life all along really um and then I The thing that I remember getting very involved in particularly was in the early 90s, there was an effort to put a nuclear waste dump in. 32 00:05:23.400 --> 00:05:40.170 Josias Bartram: Western New York in the county over from Stephen allegheny county and that effort was halted through direct Nonviolent direct action, and so I was like from the ages of eight to 10 was at a lot of protests with my family on. 33 00:05:41.280 --> 00:05:46.530 Josias Bartram: And you know this was this was before climate change was even really widely perceived as the. 34 00:05:47.460 --> 00:05:52.020 Josias Bartram: The threat that we know it is now so the environmental issues at the time are quite different on. 35 00:05:52.800 --> 00:06:09.810 Josias Bartram: And so, then since i'm giving my parents credit, though, I also want to credit my daughter, I have a 17 year old daughter who's you know, like, I think a lot of people of that generation of the generation that many of you are in climate change is the existential issue that you face. 36 00:06:11.010 --> 00:06:20.190 Josias Bartram: And so i'm you know, through my through my kids and especially through my daughter who's very involved in sunrise movement and some other on. 37 00:06:22.380 --> 00:06:32.490 Josias Bartram: Climate change responses I you know I think i've i've become more energized about climate change, specifically so it's like being inspired by multiple generations, I guess. 38 00:06:34.170 --> 00:06:35.100 Neyda Gilman: Interesting Thank you. 39 00:06:35.550 --> 00:06:37.920 Neyda Gilman: um Mona and Sophia you both can. 40 00:06:38.280 --> 00:06:42.150 Neyda Gilman: talk a little bit maybe tell us about your interest in a little bit about zero hour to. 41 00:06:43.410 --> 00:06:51.900 Sophia Murphy: i'm okay i'm to fear i'm a sophomore at binghamton I did not grow up on a communal farm, unlike desirous but I did grow up going to farm camp. 42 00:06:52.260 --> 00:07:02.610 Sophia Murphy: Where I was taught sustainability, and so I was taught how to farm sustainability, like in a sustainable way and how to have like ethical culture practices. 43 00:07:03.780 --> 00:07:11.580 Sophia Murphy: And how to also choose to eat like ethically when it comes to eating me and vegetables and learning about where everything comes from. 44 00:07:11.940 --> 00:07:22.080 Sophia Murphy: And i'm studying environmental law and policy and i've done a lot of work I have interned on campus with buffs and i've interned with the Federal Environmental Protection Agency. 45 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:35.700 Sophia Murphy: And when I was in high school and I do a lot of personal things in brooklyn where i'm from with the go honest canal, where I grew up 10 minutes from which, if you don't know is like a crazy super fun site. 46 00:07:37.500 --> 00:07:47.310 Sophia Murphy: And yeah so zero hours founded in 2018 by Jim are going and she's kind of the head of like the main big like chapter and. 47 00:07:48.360 --> 00:08:01.140 Sophia Murphy: Dr bring them finish just little college chapter we're one of the we are the first college chapter of zero hour and we do a lot of fun sustainable events on campus obviously with coven. 48 00:08:01.890 --> 00:08:13.230 Sophia Murphy: We haven't really been able to do a lot but we're doing a lot of fun stuff this year, like reusable bubble tea straw fundraisers and a mask like a written like a disposable mass collection. 49 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:23.610 Sophia Murphy: And just kind of trying to get students to be more aware of their footprint on campus and broome county and even beyond that so yeah. 50 00:08:29.250 --> 00:08:31.110 Neyda Gilman: Motor did you want to jump into or. 51 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:32.340 Monaeja Porter: yeah sorry. 52 00:08:32.580 --> 00:08:34.020 Monaeja Porter: Mike was acting up. 53 00:08:34.170 --> 00:08:34.830 Neyda Gilman: Oh that's fine. 54 00:08:35.190 --> 00:08:45.540 Monaeja Porter: um well hi my name is Mona i'm a junior at things in university i'm a major in philosophy politics in law and I minor in environmental studies. 55 00:08:46.260 --> 00:08:58.620 Monaeja Porter: I while i'm not like I didn't learn I didn't want about sustainability through like joining a certain organizations are like do like you know familiar family play sorry familiar. 56 00:08:59.010 --> 00:09:12.900 Monaeja Porter: On like ties, I actually got the loosen the law, I can speak i'm like nervous i'm sorry I got the short end of the steak and I kind of just grew up in a low income community and. 57 00:09:13.770 --> 00:09:27.300 Monaeja Porter: I I kind of learned the hard way of like how environmental racism can truly affect families, even if you know they're not directly involved in creating. 58 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:37.560 Monaeja Porter: The toxic waste that is in those communities um I been around brooklyn Queens like I grew up I bounce back and forth between those who borrows. 59 00:09:37.980 --> 00:09:47.940 Monaeja Porter: While I was in brooklyn I dealt with you know the trash industry, you know, sewage all that type of stuff and then, when I moved to Queens I lived in rockaway. 60 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:58.350 Monaeja Porter: Where every time I would go to the beach as a child, it will get closer and closer and I never knew why and then, when sandy hit my whole House wishes destroyed and I didn't know why. 61 00:09:58.740 --> 00:10:09.720 Monaeja Porter: So through that I kind of like gave us an idea of like what you know, environmental issues are and like what climate change is and I kind of like took it upon myself to do the. 62 00:10:10.350 --> 00:10:29.430 Monaeja Porter: Do the research and kinda like find my find my way in the top because i've like as when I was younger I didn't really see people like me, representing or like you know, being a leader, and you know, representing low income communities, not to say that it's not like. 63 00:10:31.500 --> 00:10:35.580 Monaeja Porter: People who are of color can also go through that but you know. 64 00:10:36.900 --> 00:10:45.930 Monaeja Porter: it's is this is disproportionate and so from there, I decided that I would want to be the person I was looking for as a child. 65 00:10:46.290 --> 00:10:51.660 Monaeja Porter: Who like wanted to know what's going on one to know what my family and my neighbors were gone through. 66 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:59.430 Monaeja Porter: But like they weren't educated, I want to be that so from there, I kind of like I kind of client myself up the ladder. 67 00:10:59.760 --> 00:11:11.370 Monaeja Porter: i've joined little small clubs in like middle school and high school I did my little research about you know why is there, so much plastic on that, like simple things like that kind of started small made my way up. 68 00:11:11.820 --> 00:11:20.460 Monaeja Porter: And now i'm currently obviously partners are our i'm recently interning in a company called sustainable westchester. 69 00:11:20.940 --> 00:11:31.260 Monaeja Porter: Which is a more about clean energy well look it's still it still applies in some ways to help low income communities at least you know, have access to you know. 70 00:11:31.740 --> 00:11:54.120 Monaeja Porter: Better energy and like for cheaper prices um but yeah Sophia said, like 00 hour is like a small club, yes, but like you know we've been making a lot of progress, we were recently chartered yay i'm so we have a lot in store, and you know if you have any questions. 71 00:11:56.460 --> 00:11:56.850 Monaeja Porter: awesome. 72 00:11:56.910 --> 00:11:59.730 Neyda Gilman: Thank you well yeah we have we have lots of questions i'm sure. 73 00:12:00.270 --> 00:12:02.550 Neyda Gilman: Kate you want to give us a introduction. 74 00:12:02.760 --> 00:12:05.850 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): yeah sure that's a hard one to follow up to say. 75 00:12:08.070 --> 00:12:14.250 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): So I am the development communications manager for vines and if you're unfamiliar with vines we're a local nonprofit. 76 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:22.200 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): committed to creating a sustainable and just Community food system so obviously that's where my passion lies with with sustainability. 77 00:12:22.860 --> 00:12:36.330 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): vines is known for having our Community gardens our downtown urban farm and the farm share program which I ran for six seasons before I took this role, I also grew up on a farm, so you know I guess that's kind of. 78 00:12:38.130 --> 00:12:38.520 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): But. 79 00:12:39.660 --> 00:12:45.690 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): I think when I was younger when I really thought of like climate change, which again like josiah so it wasn't a word be used but. 80 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:51.840 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): Like caring about the environment, I thought about you know nature slipping away because living growing up on a farm really. 81 00:12:52.170 --> 00:13:06.420 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): You know, I was really in touch with nature, but now as i'm older i'm more interested in environmental justice and i'm not even going to explain it because Mona did such a fantastic job, but really that's at the heart of why environmental sustainability is important to me so. 82 00:13:07.590 --> 00:13:10.560 Neyda Gilman: All right, thank you okay and Adam. 83 00:13:12.030 --> 00:13:12.330 Adam Flint: yeah. 84 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:23.580 Adam Flint: that's great to be here so nest is the network for sustainable tomorrow we're a small nonprofit that's been around since 2008 and I managed clean energy programs there. 85 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:30.000 Adam Flint: I guess if we're tying this back to biography I did not grow up on the farm, but I did grow up doing some gardening. 86 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:45.120 Adam Flint: And if things are taken another course I might have worked for an organization like funds but I ended up working in the energy field, I started out, I was raised by some some very progressive parents and so peace and social justice really sort of a part of my DNA growth growing up. 87 00:13:46.380 --> 00:14:02.550 Adam Flint: And I got involved with the Central American Solidarity movement in the 80s and 90s, and that led into my academic career, which was sort of the first half of my adult life in sociology where I specialized in human rights, social movements and Latin America. 88 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:20.520 Adam Flint: Then about 10 years ago group of us founded the organization that was to become nest to make our area more resilient and sustainable and really to serve serve as it as an organization to bring together different groups and individuals for different purposes. 89 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:30.060 Adam Flint: My purpose has been largely around clean energy, although in the very beginning of our existence, we spent about two and a half years fighting fracking. 90 00:14:31.500 --> 00:14:40.800 Adam Flint: And so, in terms of the work that we do our bread and butter, if you will, is doing, education and outreach to help pretty much anybody who's using energy for a building. 91 00:14:41.370 --> 00:14:47.220 Adam Flint: Right now we're not into transportation, yet, but if you have a house or an apartment or business or what have you. 92 00:14:47.850 --> 00:15:00.150 Adam Flint: We help folks get energy audits and energy improvements for a wide variety of technologies efficiency lighting heat pumps and so forth, so actually sustainable West Chester is is an organization that. 93 00:15:01.170 --> 00:15:11.940 Adam Flint: we're a part of the same program statewide to help people get heat pumps, we also have an energy court internship that has had more than hundred students go through it and energy core interns. 94 00:15:13.020 --> 00:15:16.290 Adam Flint: Today, are largely funding into university we're trying to broaden that out. 95 00:15:17.370 --> 00:15:23.850 Adam Flint: And they work with us to be able to understand how the industry works to work with clients to help them. 96 00:15:24.330 --> 00:15:34.530 Adam Flint: understand the incentives and the technologies and a lot of our interns have gone on to be in the industry or in nonprofits more in other environmental pursuits. 97 00:15:35.040 --> 00:15:42.120 Adam Flint: or other programs are concerned with environmental and social justice and climate justice and on the national and state level. 98 00:15:42.630 --> 00:15:53.460 Adam Flint: i'm involved with policy program development and implementation and regulatory affairs New York has one of the strongest laws on the books, the climate community and Protection Act. 99 00:15:54.510 --> 00:16:00.750 Adam Flint: And so, a lot of what we're doing right now is trying to make that aspirational law into actual climate action. 100 00:16:01.260 --> 00:16:10.290 Adam Flint: And now, with the new administration on the federal level we're getting involved with that as well, the last thing i'll say which might seem like a bit of a deviation, but I want everybody to be aware of this. 101 00:16:11.550 --> 00:16:16.170 Adam Flint: I think everyone knows the $1.9 trillion stimulus just passed Congress earlier today. 102 00:16:16.950 --> 00:16:22.980 Adam Flint: This is going to be pouring lots of money into every single municipal coffer in the United States. 103 00:16:23.310 --> 00:16:31.050 Adam Flint: And it's going to be far beyond what the municipalities need to deal with their mission immediate budget issues binghamton is getting between 35 and 40 million. 104 00:16:31.500 --> 00:16:41.100 Adam Flint: that's not counting the county or any other towns and in order for that money to be used properly, we all need to be involved in deciding what happens to it and that's it for me. 105 00:16:43.020 --> 00:16:56.820 Neyda Gilman: Great Thank you, as you can see, we have some great panelists that wide variety of backgrounds and knowledge and all very influential people and but kind of going off of Adam when you were talking about things we need to. 106 00:16:57.330 --> 00:17:12.840 Neyda Gilman: To make sure that the money is spent wisely The next question we have for everybody is, why is it important to try and live a more sustainable life at an individual level, again, we can anybody want to take that first no particular order. 107 00:17:18.210 --> 00:17:20.400 Neyda Gilman: Should we start with the young ones, then. 108 00:17:22.050 --> 00:17:28.770 Neyda Gilman: The newer generation Mona or Sofia, why do you think that it's important for individuals to care about sustainability. 109 00:17:31.860 --> 00:17:50.580 Sophia Murphy: um okay i'll start with Mona discipline start um it's really important for me just because I don't really want to have to like I would like to have children, and I would like, for them to have a very the same beautiful planet that I grew up having and have access to that. 110 00:17:51.660 --> 00:17:55.620 Sophia Murphy: And not even just for them, but for me and for other people and people who aren't. 111 00:17:57.180 --> 00:17:59.250 Sophia Murphy: As privileged as I am to grow up. 112 00:18:01.110 --> 00:18:09.870 Sophia Murphy: Mike being able to do this and study what i'm studying and like advocating for them, and just making sure that not only me but everyone. 113 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:23.070 Sophia Murphy: Beyond brooklyn beyond binghamton beyond the United States that we all have like a fair chance of making it in the next few years um yeah I don't know if mono wants to add anything else. 114 00:18:25.260 --> 00:18:37.710 Monaeja Porter: um I agree definitely obviously um I also feel like you know again for me for my future kids for whatever, especially for people who. 115 00:18:38.130 --> 00:18:47.400 Monaeja Porter: are again on the short end of the steak who don't even know what's going on, but this is accepting that this is their life that they have to deal with. 116 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:57.840 Monaeja Porter: i'm like rising water usage during their houses are destroying their their source of agriculture, like things like that that we be kind of just read about you know. 117 00:18:58.710 --> 00:19:04.440 Monaeja Porter: In the news, or like we watch on you know we've on social media and like me see those things where like we don't actually. 118 00:19:05.250 --> 00:19:15.900 Monaeja Porter: really get it, it really just be in their shoes like when I think about why i'm trying to pursue it pursue I think about those people who probably would want to. 119 00:19:16.380 --> 00:19:26.070 Monaeja Porter: Again, so CSA being might be in that position where like you can you can you can give your life away to advocate for such things rather than having to you know. 120 00:19:27.150 --> 00:19:32.970 Monaeja Porter: be there for your family and not actually pursue your goals like maybe you want to be like a policy. 121 00:19:33.930 --> 00:19:44.760 Monaeja Porter: own creator whatever maybe you want to be that spokesperson for your for your own for your community, but you have more dire things to worry about about what are you going to eat the next day. 122 00:19:45.210 --> 00:19:56.850 Monaeja Porter: So when I when I think about what I can do as an individual like as individual and like what I want to do I think about those things I feel like people should always take that into consideration. 123 00:19:57.540 --> 00:20:06.030 Monaeja Porter: You know, like we do have a privilege being in this country and just even being alive today so. 124 00:20:10.980 --> 00:20:13.440 Neyda Gilman: Would any of our other panelists like to. 125 00:20:14.730 --> 00:20:15.810 Neyda Gilman: Answer why they. 126 00:20:17.490 --> 00:20:21.450 Neyda Gilman: Why it's important to try and live a more sustainable life and individual level. 127 00:20:22.560 --> 00:20:30.240 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): I, I would just like to say, you know just very, very shortly, that I think that people don't think that the one thing that they do is going to make a difference. 128 00:20:30.630 --> 00:20:38.760 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): But I do think I believe in that old saying that, like a jug feels drop by drop and so everybody doing their own little part in their own communities. 129 00:20:39.270 --> 00:20:50.790 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): is going to really honestly add up to a big difference, and I also think that people vote with their with their dollars, and so, when you support companies that support that have good sustainable practices, you know. 130 00:20:51.870 --> 00:20:56.310 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): That gets noticed by people, and that is, you know where the money goes. 131 00:20:57.660 --> 00:21:03.810 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): The policy flows, sometimes, so you know just like Adams was saying, you know it's important to advocate for those things so. 132 00:21:06.060 --> 00:21:12.450 Adam Flint: yeah I could jump in here, I think, when you think back in terms of how we're all raised, I think about how. 133 00:21:12.930 --> 00:21:20.580 Adam Flint: I was properly brainwashed by the schools, about how terrible smoking was in a later generation we're probably more brought up on will don't let her don't throw things around. 134 00:21:21.030 --> 00:21:26.520 Adam Flint: I think that part of it is just having a consciousness of living lightly on the planet and understanding. 135 00:21:27.030 --> 00:21:41.460 Adam Flint: That this is a finite world and equity is super important both between humans and humans and other species on a practical level, so two things i'd say one sort of riffing off of what Kate was just saying. 136 00:21:42.780 --> 00:21:54.480 Adam Flint: As as we live in a different way in terms of our energy consumption and production food consumption and production, etc, etc we're driving markets and that drives jobs. 137 00:21:55.380 --> 00:22:02.430 Adam Flint: And who's going to take those jobs, people who understand these technologies and how they work in society who understand the economics. 138 00:22:03.390 --> 00:22:07.590 Adam Flint: And you know, even if you're a technologist understanding how to communicate with people who don't. 139 00:22:08.130 --> 00:22:15.930 Adam Flint: really live and breathe, that is just so critical and so you know we were dealing with Librarians here and they play a really important role in that whole picture. 140 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:25.500 Adam Flint: that's a public space we don't have a lot of indoor public spaces in this country and that's a public space where you can you can learn these things, and right now the public spaces, is in the ether. 141 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:35.430 Adam Flint: And then I think when you know, in terms of my area of specialization energy we have all gotten much more intimate with our homes, then I think we ever wanted to. 142 00:22:35.940 --> 00:22:42.810 Adam Flint: and making our homes places that are comfortable affordable, efficient, safe and healthy are really important. 143 00:22:43.530 --> 00:22:51.300 Adam Flint: When you're burning fossil fuels in your home you're introducing issues of all kinds, that we don't have time to go into but on an economic level. 144 00:22:51.870 --> 00:23:00.570 Adam Flint: Having to constantly buy new fuel whether that's coming through a pipe or it's being delivered as opposed to getting it from the sun, either directly or indirectly through the grid. 145 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:12.450 Adam Flint: And then, lastly, but certainly not least there's their systems right there's only so much we can do individually, but I think we become more effective advocates we understand how things work by doing it. 146 00:23:13.590 --> 00:23:23.280 Adam Flint: And what am I, my passions, frankly, is education and workforce adult and for the climate, right now, there is no state in the country that has a comprehensive climate curriculum, not one. 147 00:23:23.910 --> 00:23:38.970 Adam Flint: And so, this is one of the things that one of the many, many things that we need to do and honestly, the next few years is a massive opportunity in this state for reasons I won't dive into but that's that's a huge window politically, both here and in Washington. 148 00:23:41.670 --> 00:23:49.020 Josias Bartram: I just have a couple of things to add to all the great stuff that everyone's already said, I think one is that i'm. 149 00:23:49.680 --> 00:24:05.070 Josias Bartram: One of the most important reasons to be active, I think, is that it really helps with the feeling of helplessness and hopelessness that an issue like climate change, tends to I think if you talk to people who don't want to acknowledge. 150 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:19.470 Josias Bartram: That climate that human caused climate change exists, if you have open conversations with them, many of them will basically say that they don't want to face the negativity and kind of despair on. 151 00:24:20.550 --> 00:24:36.510 Josias Bartram: That you know is that we all feel around that when we are conscious of it and I to me the the single best way to deal with, that is to even be active in small ways because there's a big difference between being a passive victim and being someone who's actively. 152 00:24:38.370 --> 00:24:47.040 Josias Bartram: In small ways working to make things better, and then the second reason, I would say is more for my generation and that's that. 153 00:24:48.300 --> 00:25:01.500 Josias Bartram: We are we're creating a debt that is being born by people younger than us, and you know this has been going on for some time in our society people, older than me have created that that my generation is bearing but it's sort of. 154 00:25:02.250 --> 00:25:10.230 Josias Bartram: The issue is escalating, so I think a major reason is for those of us who have kids not to. 155 00:25:11.730 --> 00:25:14.610 Josias Bartram: not to burden our children with all of our. 156 00:25:15.750 --> 00:25:17.730 Josias Bartram: All of our mess that we don't want to deal with. 157 00:25:20.310 --> 00:25:21.210 Neyda Gilman: Right, thank you. 158 00:25:21.600 --> 00:25:26.160 Neyda Gilman: And Adam added in the chat like to add to the psychological impact that's. 159 00:25:26.670 --> 00:25:30.510 Neyda Gilman: Even play more of a role during this pandemic, which is. 160 00:25:32.670 --> 00:25:39.750 Neyda Gilman: causing all of us a little more stress than even normal but buildings, now that we know we're now that we've talked about like why it's important. 161 00:25:40.080 --> 00:25:52.620 Neyda Gilman: Where we were wondering what do you think is a good first step that individuals can make to living more sustainably there's so many things we could do it impacts so many parts of our lives but what's a good places to start people can do. 162 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:10.530 Adam Flint: i'll jump in real quick so i'm proceeding that probably a balance of the audience, it may not own homes of their own right now so i'll start think about the trajectory of your lives living with energy. 163 00:26:11.610 --> 00:26:12.720 You know when we're younger. 164 00:26:13.740 --> 00:26:21.120 Adam Flint: We may be renting living in someone else's homes, you can influence your parents, you can influence the people that own the homes you're in to do what. 165 00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:24.930 Adam Flint: To get an energy assessment to learn and understand. 166 00:26:25.350 --> 00:26:35.160 Adam Flint: Your energy footprint within your home and using transportation, which are the primary ways in which we use energy and food matters and and manufacturing and goods matter too, but those are the main ones. 167 00:26:35.760 --> 00:26:44.640 Adam Flint: For people who are very young, especially, and so you know understanding how to read your meter understanding what inefficient appliance looks like. 168 00:26:45.690 --> 00:26:55.260 Adam Flint: understanding that the more efficient and more well insulated your building is the more comfortable, you will be in it, and at least waste, you will have. 169 00:26:55.620 --> 00:27:01.350 Adam Flint: And then from there, there are sustainable ways to generate energy at home or to support sustainable energy. 170 00:27:01.950 --> 00:27:08.910 Adam Flint: That will come to your home so that's changing out conventional furnaces or boilers for heat pumps that run on electricity. 171 00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:15.030 Adam Flint: And it could be putting solar on your roof, or it could be becoming a member of a Community solar array. 172 00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:27.120 Adam Flint: If you're at a campus university or an institution those institutions have very significant energy footprints and there's all kinds of things that can be done to reduce those and. 173 00:27:27.600 --> 00:27:31.140 Adam Flint: I repeat this ad nauseum but students are unaware of their power. 174 00:27:31.620 --> 00:27:41.850 Adam Flint: If you look at who has power to do what at universities faculty and staff or employees, and so they are somewhat constrained administrators, or even more constrained if their junior. 175 00:27:42.390 --> 00:27:53.130 Adam Flint: graduate students are sort of different, but I will say that undergraduates if they know their power have more power to move institutions than anybody because there's very little they can do to you. 176 00:27:53.640 --> 00:28:07.410 Adam Flint: At the end of the day and you're there to lead you're going to be there for years Max and then you're gone so use that power to make sure the institution is not supporting fossil fuels, through its investments and making sure that it is on the cutting edge in terms of its own. 177 00:28:08.730 --> 00:28:21.360 Adam Flint: operations, and that includes everything from the way the buildings operate to how they procure all the stuff that they have to buy what happens to waste and and compost and so forth, all of the things. 178 00:28:30.870 --> 00:28:32.100 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): I think I could go a little. 179 00:28:32.670 --> 00:28:35.100 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): smaller scale and just say. 180 00:28:36.810 --> 00:28:45.480 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): What I always want to tell people is just start thinking about what you know what you're purchasing but also start cutting down on your single use plastics so go buy it go buy a reusable water bottle. 181 00:28:46.860 --> 00:28:59.220 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): It sounds simple, but I know that you know if everybody bought a reusable water bottle that would save 156 or something like that hundred and 56 water bottles from yourself going to. 182 00:28:59.820 --> 00:29:13.050 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): Get recycled which it's probably not probably going to end up in the ocean, so if if everybody saved 156 plastic bottles from going into the ocean, that would be a really good start, so that may be a very good place to start for a college student. 183 00:29:16.770 --> 00:29:17.250 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): and 184 00:29:17.730 --> 00:29:34.440 Monaeja Porter: To add on to Kate I also agree that, like well, we want to like make as much as a as much as a big impact as possible, I feel like we need to know like where to start and, like to take it slow, because things like that become overwhelming. 185 00:29:35.040 --> 00:29:42.150 Monaeja Porter: I know, when I was first like getting into sustainability sustainability practices, I didn't know where to start and. 186 00:29:42.540 --> 00:29:53.820 Monaeja Porter: From there, I would encourage to do your research and to just like get a handle on like what you can do like what's your position, like, how can you support in your own individual way and not trying to be like everybody else. 187 00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:59.610 Monaeja Porter: You know, like or try to do something that you cannot either financially afford or just don't have. 188 00:30:00.060 --> 00:30:09.630 Monaeja Porter: The time to like you know, not a lot of people have the time to cook a sustainable dinner a like make sure to compost On top of that, you know there's a lot of stuff. 189 00:30:10.350 --> 00:30:21.150 Monaeja Porter: That goes into that you know you don't have to always buy the most organic expensive like vegetable or fruit like just start small like start by changing your diet, a little bit you know. 190 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:27.060 Monaeja Porter: Like have a meatless Monday like I know that's kind of like you know, a drag like it's. 191 00:30:28.140 --> 00:30:35.490 Monaeja Porter: it's you know, like it does kind of lean you away from like you know, having to play want to eat meat every day like. 192 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:53.640 Monaeja Porter: um that's why I started, and you know i'm personally proud of how far i've come, especially when I thought I couldn't do it and it just like when you believe in yourself and you actually dedicate yourself, you will make a lot of progress so just start small what you can do first. 193 00:31:00.120 --> 00:31:08.700 Josias Bartram: This is a little bit related to what Adam was saying, but I would say I get involved with institutions. 194 00:31:09.840 --> 00:31:15.840 Josias Bartram: Because I institutional change is, I think, in some ways. 195 00:31:16.890 --> 00:31:26.700 Josias Bartram: One of the more difficult frustrating aspects of change, but it's also one of the most important and we desperately need young people to. 196 00:31:28.260 --> 00:31:39.000 Josias Bartram: be engaged with our institutions, both from inside but also pressuring providing pressure on in positive pressure on institutions to change. 197 00:31:44.550 --> 00:31:45.150 Neyda Gilman: Thank you. 198 00:31:46.740 --> 00:31:53.010 Neyda Gilman: Our next question kind of builds on that and we'll start with Mona and Sophia for this one, because it's specifically. 199 00:31:53.670 --> 00:32:01.830 Neyda Gilman: Specifically wondering what are suggestions that you have for students, that are looking to make a more sustainable choices in their everyday life and then. 200 00:32:02.130 --> 00:32:11.520 Neyda Gilman: We actually had a question from a panelist that they put in when they registered is, how can you live more sustainably specifically while living in the dorms. 201 00:32:11.760 --> 00:32:20.550 Neyda Gilman: So kind of building on what people have talked about we're starting with Sophia and Mona but, while the other panels as well, but focusing on students what students do. 202 00:32:22.560 --> 00:32:24.660 Sophia Murphy: um I mean there's a lot that you can. 203 00:32:24.660 --> 00:32:26.760 Sophia Murphy: Do, especially if you're at. 204 00:32:26.790 --> 00:32:35.820 Sophia Murphy: an institute like a if you're living on campus there are so many groups and people that are interested in these things, and that they can connect you to. 205 00:32:36.210 --> 00:32:45.240 Sophia Murphy: um it's really just as simple as like an instagram search of looking for like different kinds of groups like I can name like, at least for on campus there's. 206 00:32:46.140 --> 00:32:54.030 Sophia Murphy: there's buffs there's binds there's acres there's the outdoors cloud, like so many different kinds of groups. 207 00:32:54.420 --> 00:33:06.360 Sophia Murphy: And just kind of starting with finding those I think will help kind of guide you to what you're interested in and living sustainably on campus but as on an individual level just being aware of how much. 208 00:33:07.230 --> 00:33:21.720 Sophia Murphy: Waste you're producing I don't know if Mona can relate to this or anyone else who lived in like a sweet and live with four other girls, we make a lot of trash like we take out the trash like every single day and it's at least a couple like little bags. 209 00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:37.860 Sophia Murphy: And it sucks because it kind of feels inevitable, but i've just become more conscious of what i'm consuming and how that is going to be like it's going to be out of sight out of mind once I put in the trash but it's not going to be like that for. 210 00:33:38.910 --> 00:33:49.200 Sophia Murphy: Anyone or anything else to just being aware of that and, like if you're living on campus this year we're not allowed to eat in the dining halls, we have to use like single use things. 211 00:33:50.700 --> 00:33:59.580 Sophia Murphy: Just know that it's you're going to make waste, but if you are able to prevent in some kind of I like the way katie mentioned like purchasing a reusable water bottle. 212 00:34:00.750 --> 00:34:10.320 Sophia Murphy: Or if you're able to afford it, like the wooden toothbrushes or like the little pellets of the toothpaste, if anyone knows what i'm talking about. 213 00:34:11.430 --> 00:34:20.460 Sophia Murphy: there's a lot of very small ways that you are definitely able to do it and, like, I think, also katie mentioned a couple questions back, but with your dollars. 214 00:34:20.970 --> 00:34:30.180 Sophia Murphy: it's so it like not giving your money to certain organizations it's really easy to order from Amazon i'm guilty of it, I think everyone i'm sure everyone is. 215 00:34:31.020 --> 00:34:38.190 Sophia Murphy: But just being conscious of where that is going, and if you are going to they have options on how to get like. 216 00:34:39.180 --> 00:34:52.740 Sophia Murphy: Sustainable packaging that's I think Compostable recyclable not that recycling is a great system if anyone knows, like the actual systems of recycling they're not really good um but even just those small little ways. 217 00:34:54.030 --> 00:34:57.480 Sophia Murphy: can make a really big difference yeah. 218 00:35:01.950 --> 00:35:02.610 Monaeja Porter: and 219 00:35:03.570 --> 00:35:16.590 Monaeja Porter: Honestly, I kind of like I kind of bled into this question when I answered the last time i'm in regards to like you know, trying to start small in like the way that you can not like follow where everybody else can do. 220 00:35:16.950 --> 00:35:22.680 Monaeja Porter: um but I guess i'll add that, like you know there's a lot of youtubers that's on there that like. 221 00:35:23.340 --> 00:35:29.670 Monaeja Porter: You can like find out like you know their lifestyles, how they started, you know, like kind of just like build off from there, like just. 222 00:35:30.150 --> 00:35:46.170 Monaeja Porter: there's a lot of people who have like platforms that wasn't there like even a decade ago, you know just like try to take advantage of social media in a good way you know, like you know why you're procrastinating maybe find I don't know. 223 00:35:47.190 --> 00:35:59.250 Monaeja Porter: look into the EPA and like what they do, or something I know that sounds boring but you know, like try to make it fun for yourself like kind of like inches slowly into your life and then you realize that. 224 00:35:59.490 --> 00:36:10.530 Monaeja Porter: You don't have to really try as hard you don't have to stress yourself out about it um and you know there's also the food co op if you feel like you can't like. 225 00:36:11.010 --> 00:36:27.210 Monaeja Porter: If you really can't like if you're tired of noodles if you're tired of like you know you know trash food, you know go over there it's a little pricey but like it's good for your body, and if you do your portions are at you will be fine so just like you know. 226 00:36:29.160 --> 00:36:29.550 Monaeja Porter: yeah. 227 00:36:34.830 --> 00:36:43.530 Neyda Gilman: Thank you um if any of our other panelists would like to Adam mentioned like students, you know I mean power on campus as well. 228 00:36:43.980 --> 00:36:52.200 Neyda Gilman: If anybody else has any suggestions for our students, I also you mentioned the food co op I just want to throw out there there's also the food pantry if there's any students who. 229 00:36:53.730 --> 00:36:59.340 Neyda Gilman: are struggling with that there's there's ways to get some food on campus to, so I think. 230 00:36:59.370 --> 00:37:06.120 Adam Flint: also add that if you're if you're not on campus in that regard the place called noma I said. 231 00:37:07.890 --> 00:37:15.840 Adam Flint: gosh trying to remember the address now but it's on the West side will come to me there's a place that gives out free food binghamton food rescue That said, every Saturday. 232 00:37:16.950 --> 00:37:19.500 Adam Flint: Around midday and they've been doing it straight through the winter. 233 00:37:20.580 --> 00:37:20.730 Adam Flint: it's. 234 00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:21.960 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): Eight yeah well not. 235 00:37:21.990 --> 00:37:23.280 Adam Flint: Just at five Thank you. 236 00:37:23.370 --> 00:37:23.670 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): yeah. 237 00:37:23.970 --> 00:37:24.510 Adam Flint: I do know. 238 00:37:24.570 --> 00:37:25.800 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): I just I agree that in. 239 00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:27.240 Adam Flint: case of covert brain. 240 00:37:28.650 --> 00:37:34.380 Adam Flint: I guess i'll mention transport, since that hasn't been brought up obviously there's there's buses and so forth, but. 241 00:37:35.670 --> 00:37:37.770 Adam Flint: Both as a as a matter of saving. 242 00:37:39.060 --> 00:37:44.190 Adam Flint: The use of fossil fuels, but I think, also for health reasons, getting into the habit of walking and biking. 243 00:37:44.670 --> 00:37:52.710 Adam Flint: And we're going to have by certainly by this time next year we're going to have the greenway completed where you can actually get on a bike or get on your feet. 244 00:37:53.190 --> 00:37:57.690 Adam Flint: and go downtown without having to be on the street at all and that's going to be super cool. 245 00:37:58.680 --> 00:38:11.850 Adam Flint: I think, to definitely getting involved with student organizations to dive in deep and learn more about stuff by doing that's also a cool way to learn about potential careers, you could in turn with vines, you could intern with us. 246 00:38:12.930 --> 00:38:16.170 Adam Flint: You know, sustainability, can be a way of life, it could also be your job. 247 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:27.990 Adam Flint: And, and I will say one more thing about that, when I was an undergraduate at Bu as a harper college student, I had no clue what I was going to do after graduation. 248 00:38:28.590 --> 00:38:41.490 Adam Flint: And what I have discovered, is that there is a whole world of work out there, where yeah you need to have some specific knowledge bases technical skills, some of the usual social media and all that sort of jazz. 249 00:38:42.030 --> 00:38:46.110 Adam Flint: But I was not educated or trained to be an energy professional I learned that. 250 00:38:46.860 --> 00:38:52.470 Adam Flint: You learn how to learn you learn how to solve problems you communicate well you know your way around numbers to some degree. 251 00:38:52.890 --> 00:39:00.930 Adam Flint: And you can write your ticket but you're going to need to get some experience, while you're in school, ideally, both to learn things but also to learn what you don't want to do. 252 00:39:01.590 --> 00:39:10.950 Adam Flint: Right worst thing you want to do is like all right, I know I want to do this, got my BA or my bs go out and do the thing oh this sucks I hate, this figure that one out first before you leave. 253 00:39:14.310 --> 00:39:14.730 I love it. 254 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:23.850 Neyda Gilman: All right, i'm going to move on to the next question because I think it's related to some of the things that have already been talked about and learning to learn. 255 00:39:24.210 --> 00:39:38.010 Neyda Gilman: And maybe just size can start out with this one, can you tell us some of your favorite resources books media sustainability related that you would recommend or that might be good for people to consult when they're getting started and sustainability. 256 00:39:41.670 --> 00:39:44.520 Josias Bartram: I did not think about this one in advance so. 257 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:45.900 Neyda Gilman: Like to throw it. 258 00:39:46.620 --> 00:39:47.400 Neyda Gilman: sorry about that. 259 00:39:50.850 --> 00:39:56.580 Josias Bartram: I mean bill bill bryson who's a writer on these topics is. 260 00:39:57.060 --> 00:39:58.350 Josias Bartram: Very good, on. 261 00:39:59.490 --> 00:40:00.660 Josias Bartram: In general there's. 262 00:40:02.040 --> 00:40:10.200 Josias Bartram: There is a lot being produced in terms of sort of like in depth on but but popularly accessible nonfiction books. 263 00:40:11.310 --> 00:40:12.240 Josias Bartram: In this regard. 264 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:26.460 Josias Bartram: The whole i'm going to say the whole like Planet Earth series and. 265 00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:28.290 Josias Bartram: All of the. 266 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.530 Josias Bartram: British nature, documentaries that have been been produced, because. 267 00:40:36.210 --> 00:40:44.310 Josias Bartram: I think it's it's helpful to have a sense of kind of like earth systems and how large they are in comparison to. 268 00:40:46.260 --> 00:40:49.980 Josias Bartram: Our human world because that makes it all the more kind of staggering that we can. 269 00:40:51.420 --> 00:40:54.870 Josias Bartram: impact the systems on so substantially. 270 00:40:58.500 --> 00:41:01.950 Josias Bartram: yellow i'm going to think about it i'm gonna see if I think if anything else wasn't. 271 00:41:02.340 --> 00:41:03.630 Neyda Gilman: Yes, sorry about that oh. 272 00:41:03.630 --> 00:41:06.120 Neyda Gilman: No it's it's a good question for the librarian I just. 273 00:41:08.160 --> 00:41:08.820 Neyda Gilman: caught off guard. 274 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:18.330 Neyda Gilman: Adam put a couple links in the chat and if anybody else has any recommendations and, if you think of some later we can send it out when we send the recording. 275 00:41:19.170 --> 00:41:28.230 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): I would like to recommend the book it's called we are the weather saving the planet begins at breakfast by Jonathan safran foer and I can type it all in the. 276 00:41:28.740 --> 00:41:36.420 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): chat later I actually read this just about a year ago it's one of his newer books and he wrote eating animals, which is a little bit aggressive. 277 00:41:36.750 --> 00:41:39.420 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): But this one is much less aggressive and it really makes you feel like. 278 00:41:40.050 --> 00:41:47.340 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): You can make some real sustainable changes and he talks about just changing what you eat for breakfast which obviously is easier if you do not live on campus. 279 00:41:48.120 --> 00:41:58.950 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): But that's a really great book and I also really enjoyed animal animal vegetable miracle it's by Barbara kingsolver and it's it's a little old but. 280 00:41:59.460 --> 00:42:08.430 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): I think it really helps to think about where your food comes from and obviously I work provides that is something that i'm thinking about all the time, so. 281 00:42:09.030 --> 00:42:15.660 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): It was just a really cool eye opening book about someone who tries to get other food a family that tries to get their food, I think, from like 60 miles. 282 00:42:16.110 --> 00:42:27.990 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): And the one the one daughter will not give up bananas, and I also think about that every time I eat a banana, because how how far that banana has to come to get into my belly you know, like really thinking about this thing so. 283 00:42:30.660 --> 00:42:37.620 Sophia Murphy: um I have a few I I was vegan for a few years, and one of the movies that made me go vegan. 284 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:48.600 Sophia Murphy: Was conspiracy it's I think it's still a netflix i'm not entirely sure if it still is, I was vegan when I was in high school and I spent a couple years since I was. 285 00:42:49.050 --> 00:43:00.540 Sophia Murphy: In high school but um it's great it talks a lot about our impact and a lot about how corporations are involved in this and in our health, too, and how they are. 286 00:43:01.020 --> 00:43:02.940 Sophia Murphy: kind of lying about a lot of things. 287 00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:14.430 Sophia Murphy: And another book, which is not directly related to sustainability, but the adventures of young naturalist by David attenborough I keep it right next to my bed I have like a whole stack of books right next to my bed. 288 00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:25.020 Sophia Murphy: And talks about his adventures of like going out like I want to say, like the 50s maybe of like findings really amazing creatures and he just has this crazy detailed stories of like. 289 00:43:25.380 --> 00:43:33.000 Sophia Murphy: Southeast Asia and like Central America, and all these really beautiful places and you just kind of get to learn and like. 290 00:43:33.900 --> 00:43:42.600 Sophia Murphy: read about these really crazy amazing places so it's not directly about sustainability, but if you want to appreciate nature, I think that's a that's a really good book. 291 00:43:49.080 --> 00:44:02.850 Adam Flint: So i've just been popping some things in the chat here i'll just highlight a couple of them, probably a lot of you have seen the story of stuff and if you haven't you really need to see it it's a short video that in 15 minutes pretty much lays out. 292 00:44:03.870 --> 00:44:17.910 Adam Flint: How the take make waste model of everything has caused a lot of problems and how that can be changed, but what might be less known as they produced a whole ton of movies, since then, using the same approach with popular education and it's it's great stuff. 293 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:23.190 Adam Flint: The other things I guess to i'll mentioned drawdowns org. 294 00:44:24.270 --> 00:44:30.480 Adam Flint: Project drawdown is a group of scientists that's been working for about five years now, to come up. 295 00:44:31.080 --> 00:44:40.020 Adam Flint: In very detailed fashion with all of the best ways to tackle climate change and it's very comprehensive it's everything from. 296 00:44:40.710 --> 00:44:47.970 Adam Flint: Things that you think about like offshore wind and local foods to the education of women and girls and fighting any quality. 297 00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:56.520 Adam Flint: it's quite a compendium it's online it's a book check it out, then the last thing i'll mention is brand new this is more specific to my field called. 298 00:44:56.820 --> 00:45:03.630 Adam Flint: revolutionary power by show Lon de Baker, you might think that's about politics, and it is, but it's referring to power as an energy. 299 00:45:04.020 --> 00:45:10.080 Adam Flint: So if you want to understand what climate justice is and the politics of climate justice and who's doing what when. 300 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:23.880 Adam Flint: That book just came out in the last month and jolanta it was actually appointed by the Biden people to be the first environmental justice senior official at the Department of Energy so that's my contribution. 301 00:45:34.890 --> 00:45:51.840 Jennifer Embree: So i'm going to jump in here with a question that we received from the audience earlier, this is from Julian for the panelists so, how would you recommend reaching out to people who don't believe in climate change to try to convince them Does anyone want to start with, that one. 302 00:45:55.980 --> 00:45:58.950 Josias Bartram: This is a, this is a challenging one. 303 00:46:00.390 --> 00:46:01.320 Josias Bartram: Because. 304 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:05.550 Josias Bartram: You know this is a it's just one facet of how politically. 305 00:46:06.120 --> 00:46:12.870 Josias Bartram: polarized and toxic our society is right now and on and related to that also how. 306 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:21.990 Josias Bartram: Much we've lost the ability to sort of share a set of facts or share reality on so it. 307 00:46:26.520 --> 00:46:31.590 Josias Bartram: I think that it is actually almost never productive to try to convince people. 308 00:46:33.030 --> 00:46:33.480 Josias Bartram: and 309 00:46:34.560 --> 00:46:41.790 Josias Bartram: This is very it's kind of counterintuitive, but I think the best approach is to listen to them first. 310 00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:44.970 Josias Bartram: And then offer very small. 311 00:46:46.200 --> 00:46:50.850 Josias Bartram: On you know, try to poke a few small holes in the. 312 00:46:52.020 --> 00:47:06.780 Josias Bartram: structure of denial that they've built in, and when I say poke holes, I mean in ways that are unthreatening though basically give them some things to think about that over time may undermine their certainty and they're far more likely to care it if you listen. 313 00:47:08.160 --> 00:47:13.080 Josias Bartram: To them, first, even if what you're listening to is conspiracy theories and. 314 00:47:14.550 --> 00:47:17.220 Josias Bartram: And then the other thing I would say is do it in person. 315 00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:20.490 Josias Bartram: political debates on social media. 316 00:47:23.130 --> 00:47:30.030 Josias Bartram: Are you know I would hazard to say never productive so one on one conversations. 317 00:47:31.680 --> 00:47:47.790 Josias Bartram: With people built on a on a relationship, which is why I think it's you're better off if it's you know your family members or people who, you have a relationship with to build the conversation on, and I think, hopefully, a lot of those small conversations over time will shift enough. 318 00:47:49.470 --> 00:47:51.660 Josias Bartram: shift enough minds to make a difference. 319 00:48:00.300 --> 00:48:02.760 Adam Flint: I can I add, but I want to see if others have something first. 320 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:06.930 Sophia Murphy: um. 321 00:48:07.710 --> 00:48:15.180 Sophia Murphy: I don't know that's a really hard one I think design is really covered a lot of what you can do, but. 322 00:48:15.780 --> 00:48:29.190 Sophia Murphy: i'm at a certain point there's nothing more that you can do I think you know if you're arguing arguing is not really great after a certain point, even if you're coming with all the facts and whatever um. 323 00:48:30.030 --> 00:48:44.310 Sophia Murphy: You just kind of have to let them figure it out on their own and one day they'll probably come like an impact of it and learn firsthand i'm sure, a lot of people in Texas kind of figure that out, and the last few weeks. 324 00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:52.980 Sophia Murphy: That it's not normal to snow that much in Texas and it's not normal to have this crazy like weather patterns there and. 325 00:48:55.020 --> 00:49:03.390 Sophia Murphy: yeah I just think yeah if you've done as much as you can you've done as much as you can and they'll have to just figure it out on their own, I think. 326 00:49:04.950 --> 00:49:07.620 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): I also believe in the power of role modeling things. 327 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:14.220 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): Right So even if you're not going to fight with somebody about something they don't believe in, but maybe. 328 00:49:15.420 --> 00:49:22.500 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): just doing just keep doing what you're doing and then maybe people will be like oh I should do that too complex thing is cool. 329 00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:35.130 Monaeja Porter: yeah I agree, I also think that, like maybe like the way that you deliver the message they not that you must do, or like that would be best for you, but kind of like. 330 00:49:35.670 --> 00:49:38.910 Monaeja Porter: This clip kind of benefit you like it has some form of like. 331 00:49:39.510 --> 00:49:46.530 Monaeja Porter: The intrinsic value if you do it not saying that you should be like you know if you want an easier life like you got to be very convincing. 332 00:49:46.890 --> 00:49:56.970 Monaeja Porter: Like I have i've had to do with that some my family members who was just like you're trying to be boozy places like no like, for example, like actually you know. 333 00:49:57.330 --> 00:50:02.700 Monaeja Porter: Recycling plastic bags, I guess, they go shopping like instead of just throwing into the garbage you know you can use it as a. 334 00:50:02.700 --> 00:50:13.890 Monaeja Porter: trash can like stuff like little tiny things like that, like that and using actually I got my mother to start using like i'm Sophie or if, like fluoride free toothpaste. 335 00:50:14.250 --> 00:50:28.170 Monaeja Porter: And she's like this is so much better like I told you so see stuff like that, like don't yellow yeah be smooth with it basically they don't try to start an argument, because one thing about humans is that they do not like being told that they're wrong. 336 00:50:29.520 --> 00:50:30.180 Monaeja Porter: So. 337 00:50:33.540 --> 00:50:46.380 Adam Flint: yeah I mean, I think, as far as trying to do things so that some people might change their minds, you guys covered it, the only thing i'd add I put it in a link to this article in the chat further up. 338 00:50:47.520 --> 00:50:57.030 Adam Flint: At the end of the day, you're better off putting your energies into talking to people who are not actively hostile to what you're talking about whether they're people that. 339 00:50:57.570 --> 00:51:05.460 Adam Flint: know that it's the right thing to do, but aren't doing anything, all the way to people that are you know doing a little bit, but not as much as they could. 340 00:51:06.060 --> 00:51:14.850 Adam Flint: it's better to put your time and energy into those people into working together to make a difference in concrete ways and that's true with only almost any other. 341 00:51:15.900 --> 00:51:25.170 Adam Flint: cause almost nothing has ever been one by getting 100% of people to do the thing it's usually a sizable minority and that's it that's your driving history. 342 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.130 Adam Flint: And so the only reason that I could see to actually. 343 00:51:29.640 --> 00:51:38.310 Adam Flint: get into it with somebody on any you know long term level, who is just implacably hostile to to the reality of climate change is if it's somebody you really care about. 344 00:51:38.580 --> 00:51:46.740 Adam Flint: In our friend family member somebody that you have that relationship with, and I think you've already heard all the good advice on what to do, and not to do with them. 345 00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:51.120 Julian Candela: Thank you guys for much. 346 00:51:55.410 --> 00:52:02.460 Jennifer Embree: Another question just came in, and this is from nia or Maya please correct me if i'm wrong um. 347 00:52:03.630 --> 00:52:05.100 Jennifer Embree: Okay, do you want to ask your question. 348 00:52:05.520 --> 00:52:15.150 Miah Barrow: Oh, I just want to like know how I would join, or at least get involved and zero our club, even if, like things you kind of weird here. 349 00:52:17.310 --> 00:52:28.320 Sophia Murphy: um I can link our instagram and then, if you go to binghamton I don't know we've never had people from outside of binghamton try to join, but i'm sure if you don't. 350 00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:36.330 Sophia Murphy: you're totally welcome to join and come to meetings and get involved, but we're still doing events I don't know if they're going to be in person at all. 351 00:52:37.530 --> 00:52:52.080 Sophia Murphy: yeah join just linkedin and then in the group chat um but yeah and if you follow us on there and send us a message we can give you all the information that you may want. 352 00:52:53.460 --> 00:52:53.790 Sophia Murphy: Okay. 353 00:52:53.850 --> 00:53:00.000 Miah Barrow: Thank you i'm like I was on pants but I came home because it's getting kind of crazy but. 354 00:53:00.180 --> 00:53:00.630 yeah. 355 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:13.050 Monaeja Porter: we'll follow through like you know, a new member is always the good thing i'm an additional brain men. 356 00:53:14.070 --> 00:53:14.610 Monaeja Porter: So. 357 00:53:20.730 --> 00:53:34.110 Jennifer Embree: Alright, so we're pretty close to the end here, but I wanted to just kind of ask if there any last questions and we're at the right at the end so of people just want to unmute themselves to ask their questions to the panelists you can feel free to do that. 358 00:53:34.620 --> 00:53:41.640 Jennifer Embree: Or if panelists if you have any last thoughts that you'd like to share, about anything anything we didn't cover that you'd like to kind of leave with. 359 00:53:45.720 --> 00:53:55.110 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): i'd like to say to any binghamton university students, that if you can take a class with a Sean cummings who was our vines farm manager, for a long time. 360 00:53:55.770 --> 00:54:12.360 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): He also, I think, still runs acres he is amazing, and he is has just so so much to say about sustainability and philosophy of of of agriculture and things like that, so please if he sells teaching classes, you should go and take his class he did not pay me to stay there. 361 00:54:13.500 --> 00:54:16.650 Adam Flint: So i'm going to jump on that one with George home Z. 362 00:54:17.580 --> 00:54:28.650 Adam Flint: George created the sustainability master's program I have very strong self interest in this program because three out of four of the people that work for me are either in that program or they came out of it. 363 00:54:29.430 --> 00:54:32.760 Adam Flint: there's you know there's an opportunity to start that while you're still a senior. 364 00:54:33.180 --> 00:54:42.150 Adam Flint: And there's many different approaches, you know you could be into local food, you could be into planning, it could be into energy to be to transportation all kinds of things endless list. 365 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:53.040 Adam Flint: So you know, maybe look into taking some sustainability classes through that program and I totally agree with Sean Sean is Sean is a very unexpected human being he's very unique. 366 00:54:54.210 --> 00:54:59.760 Adam Flint: It will not be an easy class academically i'll tell you that, right now, but he you will learn you'll be glad you did it. 367 00:55:00.750 --> 00:55:07.260 Adam Flint: And man I wish I wish be your acres was a thing when I was a student, because it is beautiful when the weather's nice to go out there and get your hands dirty. 368 00:55:08.010 --> 00:55:14.520 Adam Flint: And you should also go to vines and hang out, I mean one of the sad things about being in the energy business it's just food is different. 369 00:55:15.810 --> 00:55:27.930 Adam Flint: You know, growing eating making food is part of being a human being and always has been and it's just great stuff so and they're building a new facility that's going to be net zero that's gonna be exciting. 370 00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:30.540 Adam Flint: can't wait to the ribbon kind of. 371 00:55:32.940 --> 00:55:37.710 Josias Bartram: So i'm gonna i'm going to pitch the library since it's a big part of why i'm here i'm. 372 00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:47.490 Josias Bartram: As things start to open back up again and they are you know, eventually, they are going to open back up again public libraries are really special spaces that are kind of unique. 373 00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:59.340 Josias Bartram: In our society Adam mentioned this a little bit, but we have, there are very few places in our society that are physical manifestations of the comments physical spaces that are. 374 00:56:00.450 --> 00:56:01.980 Josias Bartram: there to serve the public. 375 00:56:03.930 --> 00:56:13.080 Josias Bartram: Without imposed agenda and open to everyone to kind of shape the vision and libraries are that, for the public, so those of you who are students. 376 00:56:14.550 --> 00:56:21.720 Josias Bartram: You know, please come be involved in the library, for as long as you're in binghamton and those of you who are Community Members, we want to hear from you. 377 00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:35.130 Josias Bartram: Our mission is to serve the Community, so the more interaction, we can have with you and the more that we can hear from you about what you're looking for, and this includes you know, in terms of sustainability, the better we can serve you. 378 00:56:45.720 --> 00:56:48.210 Jennifer Embree: Any last parting thoughts Mona or Sofia. 379 00:56:53.580 --> 00:56:55.620 Sophia Murphy: um what was the question again i'm. 380 00:56:56.160 --> 00:56:58.470 Jennifer Embree: Just any any last things that you want to say. 381 00:56:58.530 --> 00:57:00.090 Jennifer Embree: Oh words of encouragement. 382 00:57:00.420 --> 00:57:16.680 Sophia Murphy: i'm coming during join us at zero our our instagram is in the chat and we can like get again we're all pretty friendly and pretty interesting people I would say um yeah and if you see my on campus if any of you go to school, please say hi to me. 383 00:57:21.180 --> 00:57:27.150 Monaeja Porter: yeah same thing as Sofia like individualism is something that's very. 384 00:57:27.870 --> 00:57:38.340 Monaeja Porter: present in our club like everybody's your own person everybody has their own way of doing things like different goals, but like you still get along, because we have one similar goal, which is you know. 385 00:57:39.180 --> 00:57:49.380 Monaeja Porter: Creating a better future for everybody, you know just like kumbaya and i'm basically so if that's like something that you want again to her like you don't know where to start definitely. 386 00:57:49.740 --> 00:57:59.130 Monaeja Porter: You know, look into clubs on campus and like you know if you're not on campus look into like nearby grassroots organizations, or whatever you can do. 387 00:57:59.490 --> 00:58:09.690 Monaeja Porter: Just like is better than being complacent like at least like try to get a head start on stuff and like you know you know you'll find your way you'll find your own person. 388 00:58:11.160 --> 00:58:12.030 Monaeja Porter: When you do so. 389 00:58:15.180 --> 00:58:15.420 Monaeja Porter: i'm. 390 00:58:15.450 --> 00:58:25.050 Jennifer Embree: Great Thank you so much, thank you for all of the people that have come to the attendance and thank you so much to all the panelists for being here this was amazing so seriously Thank you so much. 391 00:58:26.940 --> 00:58:39.870 Jennifer Embree: If anyone has any last questions you can always reach out to meet and I, and we can, through via email, and we can let the panelists know what your questions are but otherwise I think we are all set today so thanks again everyone. 392 00:58:40.380 --> 00:58:42.540 Sophia Murphy: Thank you have a good rest of your evening. 393 00:58:42.930 --> 00:58:45.780 Neyda Gilman: Thank you all is awesome will send the recording. 394 00:58:48.060 --> 00:58:48.570 Kate Miller-Corcoran (she/her): I. 395 00:58:54.300 --> 00:58:54.750 Neyda Gilman: yeah. 396 00:58:56.430 --> 00:58:57.210 Jennifer Embree: yeah I should.